Founder’s CBS – What’s the Big Deal?

21 Nov

First off, we love Founder’s. Every opportunity we get to have one, have someone ship us one or we stuff a bottle or two in to our own luggage, we go for it. We’ve never been disappointed with what they’ve delivered. Their stuff is good and their reputation is well deserved.

So when the hoopla all started around the release of their CBS Imperial Stout,we got caught up in it. I don’t mean we starting bidding on eBay to drive the price up from the $16 retail to the triple digits. I mean, we called a friend down South, who went to the bottle shop and picked us up a few like any other person would do.

When the bottles arrived, the Internet was still a buzz with how this beer was selling, who was bidding on eBay and where you could you get it. We put one of ours in the fridge and one in the cellar and gave the cold one a few days before we opened it.

Was all the hype and the trouble we went through to get one worth it? 100% yes. Is this the best stout we have ever tasted? 100% no.

It pours very dark black with a tan head that quickly fades away as you admire the darkness of this drink. As you raise the glass to your nose, big and bold aromas of chocolate, coffee and the dark roasted malts fill your nose up. This is going to be a BIG beer! First sips reveal even more chocolate and coffee but now there are hints and sometimes over powering notes of vanilla, bourbon and dark fruits.

Are we describing any other stouts that we might have had? Yeah. Are we describing a stout done so right, as you put down the glass you have to comment on how right it is? Yes. Overall, this is a great beer. We’re talking A+ all the way but we would never pay $100+ bucks for it.

We’re glad we got a few bottles and look forward to seeing what this one tastes like in a year or so.

From Founder’s company president and CEO, Mike Stevens:


We feel that it’s necessary to address a few of the concerns surrounding the release of our Canadian Breakfast Stout (CBS). We understand the frustrations stemming from the lack of availability of this beer and are looking forward to the day when we can produce much more of our specialty brands. As some of you are aware, we have been undergoing constant expansion for the past few years and have been working toward a master plan that will increase our annual brewing capacity by four times our current level. We are happy as hell to share that our new brewhouse is now on line and that we just recently started brewing into the new system. We plan to use this new system in 2012 to increase production of our specialty items to better service the demand for them. It is important to keep in mind, however, that the next couple of 750ml (Backstage Series) releases as well as the 2012 KBS release will still be scarce, because these beers were brewed on the old (smaller) system. But after that we should be off and running toward much greater availability.

On another note, there seems to be some concern or confusion on how are beers are allocated per state. We are proud to be a Michigan-based brewery and all specialty releases take this into consideration. We at Founders will never forget our home state market. In terms of CBS, the state of Michigan received an allocation of 21% of the entire batch of CBS. No other state saw more than 12% of the total availability. That being said, no state is treated more fairly than another (including MI). Distributor allocations are simply based on a representation of total number of accounts they represent for Founders. Should rumors of this exist to the contrary, know that they are just that: rumors.

Lastly, we’ve noticed that retail price gouging is also being discussed. I can only give you the brewery’s position on this, but please know that, legally, once we sell our products to our wholesaler, they in turn sell it to retailers throughout our states of distribution. We have no control over what this retailer will charge for the beer. We do establish our suggested retail pricing, but we cannot enforce this whatsoever. When we hear of retail price gouging, it annoys us as much as it annoys you. Our recommendation to our wholesalers in dealing with retailers that are gouging is to communicate that, if the retailer does not stop overcharging, they will jeopardize their ability to receive Founders specialty items in the future.

In short, we just want to set the record straight on these few items floating around on the blogs and make everyone aware that we are working day and night to fix the capacity concerns with our specialty products. We make this beer because we are extremely passionate about creating the best liquid we know how to produce. We started this business as home brewers and still look at ourselves as such. We know that some of you might never get your chance at a CBS bottle, but we feel it would be a greater disappointment to have never shared this product at all.


Mike Stevens | President & CEO